Chet Uber Talks With Zephyr, Neal Rauhauser and OsborneInk

Here we have Chet, the director of Project Vigilant, in a group discussion. Participants include Zapem (Joanne Joy) using her Zephyr account, Neal as Kookpocalypse and OsborneInk.

@ZEPHYR5_

@OsborneInk Nice of @ChetUber to admit Michelle never said she was FBI either. He misunderstood. I got that in writing too.

@ChetUber

@ZEPHYR5_ @OsborneInk To be very clear that is the least of the issues and I said we were left with a choice (criminal, civil, or public) –

@ChetUber

@ZEPHYR5_ @OsborneInk I felt that given the situation I did not see a benefit to our project to press any of these charges for many reasons.

@ChetUber

@ZEPHYR5_ @OsborneInk Most significant was that multi-party accounts, a witch hunt for Neal, clouded everything and it served no interest

@ChetUber

@OsborneInk @ZEPHYR5_ Really please write to me at chet.uber@projectvigilant.us would love to hear you thoughts – mission is very public.

@ChetUber

@OsborneInk We are a Scientific Research and News Agency, we do work on weapons. Calling us an espionage agency confuses tool maker and user

@ChetUber

@ZEPHYR5_ @OsborneInk I think you are aware that I can reach out to all t people. Still seeking complete “manifesto” to compare with n-gram

@ChetUber

@OsborneInk Ummm. Given the spirit of the discourse I will ignore the snide comparison to the public masturbator as well don’t know you.

@ZEPHYR5_

@ChetUber Do yourself a favor. Do not get sucked in with @OsborneInk – If you do, you’re back to square one, guaranteed.

@ChetUber

@ZEPHYR5_ To formally draft a statement as @OsborneInk claims he has to put to rest all issues between PV and “Michelle” et al. We are seen

@ChetUber

@ZEPHYR5_ @OsborneInk single bit better in 2011-2. The first DM was you know where Neal is and you better tell us sooner rather than later.

@ChetUber

@ZEPHYR5_ @OsborneInk all of the shit Neal’s posting in 2010 before he quit did was complicate our work. “Michelle” et al in her DM wasn’t a

@ChetUber

@ZEPHYR5_ @OsborneInk The Intelligence we gathered then and now is all completely legal and is to test theories. Lack of fact checking and

@ChetUber

@ZEPHYR5_ @OsborneInk So that all of our members whether OSINT, HUMINT, scientists knew that the last thing we were was “duly appointed” law

@ChetUber

@ZEPHYR5_ @OsborneInk It also in a larger sense serves no ones interest to act as vigilantes, we called the firm ProjectVIGILANT and similar

@ChetUber

@ZEPHYR5_ @OsborneInk Of everything that happened Tom Ryan and the tape violated a contractual agreement should not have ended up as it did.

@ChetUber

@Kookpocalypse @OsborneInk All governments and groups have corruption, study sociology back to Hammurabi. If you hate US so much move!

@carimachet

@Kookpocalypse @OsborneInk @ChetUber @ageis exactly & 2 what end ? the thing = the US = owned by KSA so it = such a lie > social engineering

@Kookpocalypse

@SunTzuShine @ChetUber @OsborneInk @ageis The emperor is buck naked. That’s why Manning & Snowden have the trouble they do.

@SunTzuShine

@OsborneInk @ChetUber @Kookpocalypse @ageis Yes. So why do you have a double standard for Manning and Snowden?

@SunTzuShine

@Kookpocalypse @ChetUber @OsborneInk @ageis Do not worry. History is on their side.

@ChetUber

@SunTzuShine @OsborneInk @Kookpocalypse @ageis Ummm violating 50 USC Chapter 4B – DISCLOSURE OF CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. Not targeted caught

@SunTzuShine

So was dumping tea. Snowden and Manning are on the right side of history. @ChetUber @OsborneInk @Kookpocalypse @ageis

@ChetUber

@SunTzuShine @OsborneInk @Kookpocalypse @ageis@ That would not be true. History does not have a right or wrong side it just is. Criminals

@ChetUber

@ageis @Kookpocalypse @OsborneInk If you mean the FBI should not but has custody over mass SIGINT from FBI skipping FISC. Might agree wit ya

@ChetUber

@ageis @Kookpocalypse @OsborneInk Not true, it is not best solution but strong access control – 2 person rule and 2 judges make it work.

@ChetUber

@ageis @Kookpocalypse @OsborneInk The bottom line is that the number of Americans versus the number of agents available and DA’s hamper fear

@ChetUber

@ageis @Kookpocalypse @OsborneInk If you want to stay up at night worrying. Try you Credit Card company, the health care industry. Corps!

@ChetUber

@ageis @Kookpocalypse @OsborneInk Unlike Germany where transnational data is eliminated as soon as the money clears US corporations scary!

@ChetUber

@ageis @Kookpocalypse @OsborneInk Civil Disobedience is not filling out your selective service card or crossing white line at nuke storage

@ChetUber

@ageis @Kookpocalypse @OsborneInk . Best news is NSA will make sure this doesn’t happen again. Secrets are that way mostly for real reasons.

@ChetUber

@ageis @Kookpocalypse @OsborneInk Before you scream that too much is classified, too much is but people err on side of fail safe principal.

@ageis

@ChetUber @Kookpocalypse @OsborneInk Probably over 20,000 classified docs taken by Snowden, only 250 released so far.

@ChetUber

@ageis @Kookpocalypse @OsborneInk Citizens want opacity for themselves, but not the Government. It has obligations – fiduciary and custodial

@SunTzuShine

Oh really? For one example, Harriett Tubman. Violated law passed by Congress to return escaped slaves. @ChetUber @OsborneInk @Kookpocalypse

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