SABU and Sanguinarious, The Big Boys Chat; March 30, 2012

Below is Sabu chatting with m45t3rs4d0w8 aka Sanguinarious aka William Welna on March 30, 2012. By then Sabu had been outed as a Federal Informant

Sanguinarious tried to be a Federal informant but his intel wasn’t good enough so he was “let go” and taken off the payroll. It’s interesting reading the conversation between Sabu and Sang where they discuss Sabu’s arrest, Barrett Brown’s arrest and try to social engineer each other.

(4:38:56 AM) Sabu: Yo

(4:39:07 AM) Sabu: Sang?

(4:39:35 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: lolwhat?

(4:39:58 AM) Sabu: what up ninja

(4:40:10 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: this is rather odd πŸ˜›

(4:41:23 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: how can you be sabu?

(4:42:01 AM) Sabu: Well first off keep this convo priv8. I trusted you before I know I can again

(4:42:08 AM) Sabu: And ask me anything from our last convos

(4:42:31 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: that I can do

(4:43:03 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: and I think I’ll play it by ear

(4:43:28 AM) Sabu: Word

(4:43:43 AM) Sabu: how’s it going brother?

(4:43:58 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: pretty good

(4:44:04 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: just surprised at the im πŸ˜›

(4:44:13 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: you?

(4:44:37 AM) Sabu: I’m good. I hope you weren’t one of those who believed the medias bullshit

(4:44:47 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: nada

(4:44:50 AM) Sabu: I think more non-anons questioned foxnews and media than actual anons did

(4:45:03 AM) Sabu: Sadly

(4:45:17 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: it looked more and more like some kind of false flag op

(4:45:22 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: the more I looked into it

(4:46:42 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: the legal docs where not legal

(4:47:06 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: and it seems a bit of a stretch to have agents 24/7 watching you

(4:49:28 AM) Sabu: Let’s just say foxnews made so much shit up and ran with it. Ajnd no one stopped them. And it doesn’t help every other media pretty much copied foxnews’ story

(4:50:05 AM) Sabu: I always made a point to you all and that was if I got locked up ill cop out to my charges. And I did. 12 counts.

(4:50:45 AM) Sabu: Anyway nigga just wanted to say keep your head up. Stay strong and all that jazz

(4:51:31 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: thanks πŸ™‚

(4:52:05 AM) Sabu: I see backtrace fell apart eh? Haha

(4:52:14 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: hubris went mad

(4:52:21 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: more so then asherah

(4:52:34 AM) Sabu: Crazy times

(4:52:53 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: he started taking weird happy stuff and made him paranoid with everyone out to get him , etc.

(4:53:01 AM) Sabu: They wanted to get famous off my arrest but that plan failed. As it turns out it wasn’t them that got me after all

(4:53:06 AM) Sabu: Bunch of lamers.

(4:53:32 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: aye, usually its the people you think you can trust

(4:53:49 AM) Sabu: How’s shadow doing?

(4:54:00 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: he has a job

(4:54:03 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: new appartment

(4:54:06 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: etc.

(4:54:16 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: Ironically.. hes a security guard, suits him lol

(4:54:24 AM) Sabu: Awesome. Tell him privately I miss his fat ass

(4:55:19 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: lol I can do that

(4:55:52 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: so I take it this is some of the last words before you have to do time?

(4:56:27 AM) Sabu: Oh my brother don’t fret. My last words aren’t here yet. Just be patient.

(4:56:46 AM) Sabu: 😎

(4:56:46 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: just dont pull a commanderx

(4:56:56 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: that is if you heard what he did lol

(4:57:01 AM) Sabu: Hell no. Roflroflroflrofl

(4:57:26 AM) Sabu: He’s a drama queen. No one cares enough to chase him around. Except for bounty hunters. For the money.

(4:57:57 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: I offered to give out his location for a pizza, no one took me up on the offer lulz

(4:58:26 AM) Sabu: Then he runs to canada of all places. He won’t get the political asylum he thinks he will get. He had a better chance of running to the iranian embassy in new york and pleading he runs anonymous and can help their government

(4:58:50 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: there is already an arrest warrent in Canada with his name on it

(4:59:22 AM) Sabu: jEA

(5:00:01 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: yea, I guess it isnt working well

(5:00:55 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: as for Kayla doing research I found out the reason he got busted was because of probably Lauralei

(5:01:24 AM) Sabu: Agreed 100 percent. Thank you.

(5:01:43 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: I managed to track Kayla all the way down to fine details of street address, etc.

(5:01:52 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: just by looking at Lauralai’s G+ account

(5:01:59 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: literally…

(5:02:17 AM) Sabu: In fact laurelei is responsible for taking a big chunk of us down to be techinal. #hq logs

(5:02:19 AM) Sabu: Crazy

(5:02:34 AM) Sabu: Do you happen to have kaylas pic?

(5:02:34 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: it only took me maybe an hour, I just knew the name to look for in the google circles

(5:02:39 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: yea

(5:02:48 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: he looks like a random bloke

(5:03:07 AM) Sabu: Really? I haven’t seen him at all

(5:03:31 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: pretty non-descript

(5:03:41 AM) Sabu: And btw in that pic everyone saw I wasn’t doing a fucking duckface hahaha I was blowing a kiss to one of my bitches

(5:04:11 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: lol

(5:04:19 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8:

(5:04:25 AM) Sabu: Man I tell you. When I finally get a chance to speak a lot of truth is going to blow peoples minds

(5:04:30 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: kayla is 2nd from the right

(5:05:06 AM) Sabu: Cool

(5:05:07 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: I can imagine πŸ˜›

(5:05:14 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: it will be a bit interesting

(5:05:27 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: and im sure fox news will be proven 100% credible

(5:07:30 AM) Sabu: I miss kayla. She/he was a great friend to me

(5:07:54 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: she was entertaining

(5:10:17 AM) Sabu: Shitty connection.

(5:10:28 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: one person I met might be of interest, he goes by a dozen or so nicks but he thinks the same as me with the story being false, I think you knew him by uid0/snowcrash

(5:11:07 AM) Sabu: You there ?

(5:11:29 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: yea

(5:11:46 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: I think I am here

(5:12:51 AM) Sabu: That’s good to know

(5:13:20 AM) Sabu: I mean if people want to hate me. That’s fine. Just question the assertions. And read my docs. And come up with your own judgement

(5:14:07 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: most anons are not so bright and believe everything they read sadly

(5:15:10 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: like the foxnews story says you didnt mask your ip and they instantly got you, doesnt make sense when you always used shells that never logged… defeated the fed laptop lol

(5:15:41 AM) Sabu: Thank you.

(5:16:00 AM) Sabu: You know for a fact I always used shells. Shit son I been using shells since the 90s on efnet.

(5:16:02 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: for noticing some of the obvious issues? πŸ˜€

(5:17:03 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: also ive never heard of a snitch with a laptop the FBI watched in real time 24/7

(5:17:40 AM) Sabu: Yes because you know how frustrated I was to see even close friends jump on

(5:17:41 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: all acounts ive ever heard of or know about they let them go and he brings back the info

(5:18:19 AM) Sabu: Word

(5:18:53 AM) Sabu: Anything else you found wrong or obv stupid?

(5:18:53 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: aye, with all the other busts people were quick to assumptions

(5:19:10 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: well you eating donuts and “duckfaceing”

(5:19:24 AM) Sabu: Hahah

(5:19:56 AM) Sabu: Nytimes was the worst. They tried to demonize me to the max.

(5:20:10 AM) Sabu: Talk about assasination of character..

(5:20:30 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: the stratfor hack seemed to be the biggest issue, as a lot of people have been reporting on

(5:20:46 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: and how the FBI “let” it happen

(5:21:13 AM) Sabu: They even said I was on welfare and foodstamps which is untrue. They made me seem like a total faggot

(5:21:42 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: I love the pyschology profiling one

(5:22:00 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: you were a “sad” man who was just lashing out his pain and irl frustrations on others and compared you to hitler

(5:22:16 AM) Sabu: Haha yes I saw this

(5:22:56 AM) Sabu: I am good friends with an esteemed psychologist and professor. He said they’d profile me for years after this due to amount of “lives” I lived

(5:23:15 AM) Sabu: I’m like… It aint that serious. Just media being wacky

(5:23:29 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: other issue is how did the FBI let you do the things you did

(5:23:45 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: that is, that is “claimed” you did πŸ˜›

(5:23:56 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: while you were “working” for them

(5:24:25 AM) Sabu: Mhm

(5:26:02 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: the legal documents

(5:26:11 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: they dont have dated signatures

(5:26:23 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: or a witness to the signing /dated signature

(5:26:34 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: also yours are different from some of the others

(5:26:49 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: from same area/office

(5:27:00 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: makes me think they are fake

(5:27:17 AM) Sabu: Good things to question. Sadly no one is questioning like you are

(5:27:55 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: the Chicago guy’s inditment looks fake too

(5:28:34 AM) Sabu: Can’t talk about the legal shit you know? But thanks for questioning my brother

(5:28:50 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: I always question, and if its fox news, I use it as toliet paper πŸ™‚

(5:29:13 AM) Sabu: true haha

(5:30:08 AM) Sabu: So what else is new?

(5:30:26 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: so far nothing too major, you seem to know the usual new stuff

(5:30:41 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: anon9 tinfoil hat exploded

(5:30:42 AM) Sabu: Yeah

(5:31:10 AM) Sabu: Ironically this should make anonymous way stronger. Let’s see if it does

(5:31:18 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: I think he is investing in triple inches layered tinfoil

(5:31:38 AM) Sabu: Mhm

(5:32:01 AM) Sabu: So do I look as you imagined?

(5:32:12 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: well because so many talked to you it caused a large scare reaction

(5:32:29 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: eh not really , I was a bit surprised

(5:33:18 AM) Sabu: No one expected some nigga from the ghetto haha

(5:33:41 AM) Sabu: As for the ppl I talked to 98 percent of them didn’t hack or do anything at all. So I don’t understand all the fear

(5:33:51 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: lol, I’m in the ghetto atm lol

(5:34:51 AM) Sabu: Welcome homey

(5:34:53 AM) Sabu: Lol

(5:34:55 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: also it didnt make sense that Asherah would be pipping you were a snitch, kinda against FBI interest πŸ˜›

(5:35:07 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: always found that odd

(5:35:22 AM) Sabu: Because at the end of the day she or anyone didn’t really know shit. It was all a bluff

(5:35:43 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: oh, Barrett got raided, hes really mad about it

(5:36:04 AM) Sabu: Technically I’m surprised she didn’t get hit with obstruction of justice

(5:36:26 AM) Sabu: As for BB I doubt he got raided. Kid doesn’t know shit. He’s another commanderx. Two useless leaderfags

(5:36:27 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: it will catch up to her someday

(5:36:42 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: well, I think he did it so he could get attention

(5:36:52 AM) Sabu: Ofc

(5:36:58 AM) Sabu: He ran with it

(5:37:01 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: I tweeted a pic of him shootig up on tinychat with a needle, asked if they fund anything good

(5:37:17 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: and I Keep implying they found large stash of heroin and he turned :3

(5:37:24 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: he really loves me

(5:37:27 AM) Sabu: I mean if he did get raided why wasn’t he processed? Bailed? Anything?

(5:37:54 AM) Sabu: Plus what was he raided for? Conspiracy? For what? He didn’t do or know anything

(5:37:55 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: think he was implying more of a subpena to take his laptop, etc.

(5:38:07 AM) Sabu: Word

(5:38:27 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: not provided pics of the documents though

(5:38:38 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: just a pastebin writing up “quotes” of it

(5:38:58 AM) Sabu: Probably copied from other subpoenas out there. Lamer

(5:39:36 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: he said he got raided for records regarding all kinds of stuff his super secret projectpm was working on

(5:39:46 AM) Sabu: Lol

(5:40:07 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: and the best part!

(5:40:12 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: is where he implies he destroyed evidence

(5:40:21 AM) Sabu: What a dick

(5:40:22 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: before they could take the laptop

(5:40:41 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: he should be like in jail for this lol

(5:40:57 AM) Sabu: He wont

(5:41:07 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: because it never happened πŸ˜‰

(5:41:28 AM) Sabu: I heard he was calling me a coward for “snitching” out of 2 years and shut the fuck up when my docs came out and said 124 years

(5:41:56 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: sounds like BB

(5:42:42 AM) Sabu: Fun times..

(5:43:18 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: I think when you if you do that is, come back publically it will be more distrust, its an FBI agent, etc.

(5:43:37 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: interesting stragety for them to do

(5:44:02 AM) Sabu: Que sera, sera

(5:44:41 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: I know Keishu believes in you / all kinds of stuff was wrong

(5:45:17 AM) Sabu: I know deep down a lot of people believe in me

(5:45:24 AM) Sabu: Let’s see how it goes

(5:47:08 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: indeed, the truth always comes out

(5:51:18 AM) Sabu: One thing I will say I met a lot of good people and friends out of this. Kind of why I reached out to you. I hope I can save a few friendships out of this

(5:54:12 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: you have to give me more than foxnews for me to believe something lol πŸ˜›

(5:54:54 AM) Sabu: That’s a good thing man

(5:56:09 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: ironic if you think about it, all the anons bashing mainstream media

(5:56:27 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: and how its inaccurate, etc.

(5:57:06 AM) Sabu: Oh that’s the first thing I said. All this hate on foxnews. But as soon as they release an article anons believe it as truth

(5:58:10 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: anons would back hitler if he gave out free cake πŸ˜›

(5:58:39 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: one of the weird things anons in a group do, ignore the rest but for what they thing is true, and go with it

(5:58:41 AM) Sabu: I’m not bashing anonymous at all. I think its still a beautiful and powerful idea.

(5:58:54 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: yea I do understand this πŸ˜‰

(5:59:14 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: just amusing and ironic observations πŸ™‚

(5:59:25 AM) Sabu: Ind33d

(6:01:05 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: oh, and im driving jester insane :3 I keep getting closer and closer to full

(6:02:52 AM) Sabu: Anyway mate I’m going back to movie watching. If you need me hit me up at

(6:03:05 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: k will do πŸ™‚

(6:03:29 AM) Sabu: Well I know for sure he’s tom ryan unless you got a smoking gun

(6:03:51 AM) Sabu: You got to tie him to rjacksix somehow or mach2600

(6:04:12 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: mach is in hidding since I told her I knew her full dox

(6:04:33 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: and Tom Ryan dmed me asking what I knew about him

(6:04:34 AM) Sabu: Another thing once you dox him: provide evidence he’s attacked dozens of american sites the last year.

(A point I made on twitter) he should technically go down as well

(6:05:23 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: I’ll eventually get my perfect proof

(6:05:48 AM) Sabu: So you figured mach out? Who is she?

(6:05:59 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: some old woman from Oregon

(6:06:13 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: devorced

(6:06:23 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: I think….

(6:06:49 AM) Sabu: Expose them as they have exposed so many others. Karmas a bitch

(6:07:10 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: lol in time, no fun dropping cards at once, I like torture

(6:07:27 AM) Sabu: Ja. Tom ryan is fucked

(6:08:11 AM) Sabu: But its essential you look through his timeline or find a cache of all the american sites he has ddosd

(6:08:26 AM) Sabu: Dos’ rather

(6:08:49 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: yea, I looked into that first time I heard about jester, American hosts for some of them

(6:09:06 AM) Sabu: Another thing: we all can somewhat agree xerxes is heavily based on owasp’s slowloris test tool and other bugs from owasp. Tom ryan has attended owasp conferences and is a partner

(6:10:36 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: one thing I have figured is mach might be doing irc jester

(6:11:05 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: how jester acts mirrors mach near identical in a lot of times ive seen jester on irc

(6:12:39 AM) Sabu: And their clueless on irc for sure.

(6:12:57 AM) Sabu: cluelessness rather

(6:13:26 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: aye, I bashed the irc jester with technical questions

(6:13:52 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: no real response or rmuch of anything

(6:14:02 AM) Sabu: Ja

(6:14:04 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: and a “mach” style essay reply

(6:14:30 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: like replace the nicks and no one would 2nd quess mach said it

(6:15:33 AM) Sabu: I wonder what ties those two geezers to tom ryan though

(6:15:52 AM) Sabu: Relatives? Work? Owasp? Some forum?

(6:15:58 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: possible they all meet online somehow

(6:16:18 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: mach runs her own company

(6:16:26 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: computer reated

(6:16:37 AM) Sabu: I see

(6:16:43 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: but its like a single person, her

(6:17:07 AM) Sabu: Have you figured out who “mister x” is in all those emails between jen and hubris? They mention mister x runs a company

(6:17:23 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: not yet

(6:19:38 AM) Sabu: If I ever get a lumpsum I’m going to license your ass as a PI you’re good at what you do haha

(6:20:22 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: lol, one thing I am good at is intelligence close to programing πŸ˜›

(6:20:31 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: its like my hobby awya from programing

(6:20:45 AM) Sabu: True

(6:21:55 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: I named mach’s sister in laws pet horse on twitter and asked if she ever rode him

(6:21:58 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: she raged

(6:22:34 AM) Sabu: Haha. And she flipped out?

(6:24:33 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: one week of no twitter

(6:24:50 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: got bored of waiting to see if I’d drop dox

(6:25:07 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: and now I think on another twitter vacation

(6:25:39 AM) Sabu: Yeah I see not one word on twiter in a week. The horses name is sweden?

(6:26:07 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: oh no, it starts with a B

(6:26:16 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: I deleted the tweet a few hours after

(6:26:33 AM) Sabu: Oh got you

(6:26:50 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: im confusing them mostly since im not going by my normal percieved MO

(6:27:49 AM) Sabu: Well if you need anything from my end let me know. Though I can’t do much these days. But I’m glad someones doing something these days

(6:28:10 AM) m45t3rs4d0w8: aye, will do, going to crash too πŸ™‚

(6:32:15 AM) Sabu: Goodnight brother. Have a good day